Privacy - The 9-12 Project of Central PA2024-03-29T04:52:01Zhttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A1236&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJoe . . . well said. Thank yo…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-26:3029713:Comment:15102009-03-26T17:45:47.948ZKarenhttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Karen
Joe . . . well said. Thank you.
Joe . . . well said. Thank you. As a follow up point to the p…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-26:3029713:Comment:15072009-03-26T16:47:07.883ZJoehttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Joe17
As a follow up point to the post above, it should be noted that while the Founders did risk their lives and fortunes to fight for our nation's independence, they took measures to meet in secrecy and protect themselves from capture by the British until such a time as their security could be relatively protected. Yes, they were always at risk, and they were brave and valorous beyond question, but even these sainted souls knew there was a right time for prudent precautions and a right time for…
As a follow up point to the post above, it should be noted that while the Founders did risk their lives and fortunes to fight for our nation's independence, they took measures to meet in secrecy and protect themselves from capture by the British until such a time as their security could be relatively protected. Yes, they were always at risk, and they were brave and valorous beyond question, but even these sainted souls knew there was a right time for prudent precautions and a right time for sacrificing safety to fight for the future of this country. I would not mind some sort of…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-26:3029713:Comment:15022009-03-26T16:18:53.229ZJoehttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Joe17
I would not mind some sort of security past the main page. I am not one of the Founding Fathers. I am willing to do many things to preserve and defend the tenets of the Constitution in its strict construction. Risking trouble for my family or my financial future right now is not one of those things. Should circumstances deteriorate in this nation to a point in the future where I need to choose between sacrificing my principles, my fortune, or my family's security, I would prefer to reassess my…
I would not mind some sort of security past the main page. I am not one of the Founding Fathers. I am willing to do many things to preserve and defend the tenets of the Constitution in its strict construction. Risking trouble for my family or my financial future right now is not one of those things. Should circumstances deteriorate in this nation to a point in the future where I need to choose between sacrificing my principles, my fortune, or my family's security, I would prefer to reassess my position at that time rather than take unnecessary risks up-front. Hi Peter . . . I guess "won o…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12632009-03-25T18:37:54.907ZKarenhttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Karen
Hi Peter . . . I guess "won or lost the argument" was not the right term . . . I meant it in a friendly way . . . . meaning . . ."OK I give in and will go with the flow". I don't actually feel like I have lost and I certainly do not have any anomosity toward anyone here . . . we all want the samething (I think). It has been interesting to read all the points of view . . . guess we are all starting at different points. I am starting as a newbie activist :-) . . . . just a bit out of my comfort…
Hi Peter . . . I guess "won or lost the argument" was not the right term . . . I meant it in a friendly way . . . . meaning . . ."OK I give in and will go with the flow". I don't actually feel like I have lost and I certainly do not have any anomosity toward anyone here . . . we all want the samething (I think). It has been interesting to read all the points of view . . . guess we are all starting at different points. I am starting as a newbie activist :-) . . . . just a bit out of my comfort zone :-) I just wanted to mention one…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12612009-03-25T18:30:05.640ZPeter Trippetthttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/PeterandKarenTrippett
I just wanted to mention one bad side effect to the robots.txt solution. If we tell bots to just "go away", then our site will not show up on search engines any more. Someone interested in our group would not be able to just type some keywords in google, (like "centre county we surround them") and find us!<br />
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But it should be possible to direct the bot to only search one static page, that contains information about our group, and keywords that should be searched, and then directs visitors to the…
I just wanted to mention one bad side effect to the robots.txt solution. If we tell bots to just "go away", then our site will not show up on search engines any more. Someone interested in our group would not be able to just type some keywords in google, (like "centre county we surround them") and find us!<br />
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But it should be possible to direct the bot to only search one static page, that contains information about our group, and keywords that should be searched, and then directs visitors to the main site! Yeah, actually, I think that…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12522009-03-25T17:38:12.399ZWilliam Ameshttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/WilliamAmes
Yeah, actually, I think that might accomplish what I am chiefly concerned about, which is the casual Google search.<br />
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Good find!<br />
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<cite>Peter and Karen Trippett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?page=3&commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A1249&x=1#3029713Comment1249"><div>William suggested a "robots.txt file exclusion" in a previous post.<br/></div>
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Yeah, actually, I think that might accomplish what I am chiefly concerned about, which is the casual Google search.<br />
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Good find!<br />
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<cite>Peter and Karen Trippett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?page=3&commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A1249&x=1#3029713Comment1249"><div>William suggested a "robots.txt file exclusion" in a previous post.<br/></div>
</blockquote> I'd like to include this topi…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12512009-03-25T17:37:16.606ZJenniferhttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Jennifer
I'd like to include this topic in tomorrow's meeting agenda.
I'd like to include this topic in tomorrow's meeting agenda. William suggested a "robots.t…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12492009-03-25T17:32:00.584ZPeter Trippetthttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/PeterandKarenTrippett
William suggested a "robots.txt file exclusion" in a previous post.<br />
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To explain, a robots.txt file contains a list of commands that most legitimate "bots", or "web crawlers" will obey when scanning a site. Web search engines use "bots" to scan the web, and build an index of keywords found on every web site. When the google bot first encounters a site, it looks for a file called "robots.txt". If the file is present, then google will look in that file, which contains a set of commands telling it…
William suggested a "robots.txt file exclusion" in a previous post.<br />
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To explain, a robots.txt file contains a list of commands that most legitimate "bots", or "web crawlers" will obey when scanning a site. Web search engines use "bots" to scan the web, and build an index of keywords found on every web site. When the google bot first encounters a site, it looks for a file called "robots.txt". If the file is present, then google will look in that file, which contains a set of commands telling it which pages can be scanned, and which cannot (among other things). It is possible to create a "robots.txt" file that simply says, "Go Away! Don't scan this site!".<br />
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It is actually possible for anyone to view a robots.txt file. If you want to see the one microsoft uses, you can use this link:<br />
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<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/robots.txt">http://www.microsoft.com/robots.txt</a><br />
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Robots.txt works only on those bots that choose to obey it. It is possible for a bot to ignore the robots.txt, and there are some out there that do. However, a properly designed robots.txt would prevent our site from appearing on major search engines. That might provide the secuirty that some here are looking for.<br />
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I just researched this, and found that it is possible for us to put our own robots.txt on ning.com. Probably, only the creator of this social network would have the access rights that would permit this. For those who are technically inclined, go look at this article:<br />
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<a href="http://help.ning.com/cgi-bin/ning.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3053">http://help.ning.com/cgi-bin/ning.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faq...</a><br />
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As I said, this would simply stop google and other major search engines from scanning our site. It would not permit someone who wanted to research our group, for whatever purpose, from finding out who has signed up here, or what they are saying. Karen said:PS. I know on this…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12442009-03-25T17:15:06.075ZPeter Trippetthttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/PeterandKarenTrippett
<cite>Karen said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?x=1&id=3029713%3ATopic%3A1080&page=3#3029713Comment1241"><div>PS. I know on this forum I have lots the argument :-) It's ok I will still do what I feel comfortable doing because I want to make a difference . . . that is why I joined . . . from one voice to many is my goal!</div>
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I feel bad that you believe there is an argument to be won or lost here. I thought we…
<cite>Karen said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?x=1&id=3029713%3ATopic%3A1080&page=3#3029713Comment1241"><div>PS. I know on this forum I have lots the argument :-) It's ok I will still do what I feel comfortable doing because I want to make a difference . . . that is why I joined . . . from one voice to many is my goal!</div>
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I feel bad that you believe there is an argument to be won or lost here. I thought we were having a discussion, to find the best way to give those afraid to post here the security they are looking for. If we change the setup of this site, such that it only gives the <i>illusion</i> of security, it wouldn't do any good, right? If we close this site down too tightly, we will discourage new people from joining.<br />
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I don't think there is any way to <u>guarantee</u> the anonymity some seem to want. If anyone has any suggestion to the contrary, please say so.<br />
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Let's stay unified on the core principles of this group. We may disagree on things from time to time, but if we start viewing each disagreement as an argument to be won or lost, we may end up breaking up the group - then we all lose! William Ames said:Let me tell…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-03-25:3029713:Comment:12422009-03-25T16:40:52.475ZPeter Trippetthttps://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/PeterandKarenTrippett
<cite>William Ames said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?page=2&commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A1239&x=1#3029713Comment1239"><div>Let me tell you a real scenario that happened to me...<br></br><br></br>I had an interview for a good position at Penn State. Before we even got started, I was asked what my affiliation with a certain web site was, since it came up during a Google search on my name. (You can probably duplicate that search rather…</div>
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<cite>William Ames said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/privacy-1?page=2&commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A1239&x=1#3029713Comment1239"><div>Let me tell you a real scenario that happened to me...<br/><br/>I had an interview for a good position at Penn State. Before we even got started, I was asked what my affiliation with a certain web site was, since it came up during a Google search on my name. (You can probably duplicate that search rather easily).</div>
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William, I know you aren't going to be posting on this issue anymore. However, I am quite certain that it is illegal for an employer to ask you about political affilliations, or membership in organizations during a job interview, or to use such criteria to accept or reject you. I am not a lawyer, but you should have immediately complained to the higher-ups at Penn State about that interviewer, and if you didn't get satisfaction, you probably could have filed a lawsuit against them.