Specter Switches Parties - The 9-12 Project of Central PA2024-03-28T08:46:00Zhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/forum/topics/specter-switches-parties?commentId=3029713%3AComment%3A8067&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWSJ Article on this subjecttag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-05-02:3029713:Comment:85882009-05-02T00:50:00.779ZJoehttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Joe17
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/04/29/would-a-pa-gop-voter-have-a-cause-of-action-against-arlen-specter/">WSJ Article on this subject</a>
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/04/29/would-a-pa-gop-voter-have-a-cause-of-action-against-arlen-specter/">WSJ Article on this subject</a> First, when I say "you", I do…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:82412009-04-29T19:01:09.418ZClinton Judyhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/ClintonJudy
First, when I say "you", I don't mean you directly, I meant the people who voted him in.<br />
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And I think you're also right that this won't change his voting record. In fact, during his press release he said that it would be exceedingly difficult for him to win in 2010 as a Republican, and that's why he was switching to the Democratic party.<br />
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Again, it's a bad idea to vote for anyone because they have an (R) or a (D) by their name. You have to vote based on their policies and their voting record.…
First, when I say "you", I don't mean you directly, I meant the people who voted him in.<br />
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And I think you're also right that this won't change his voting record. In fact, during his press release he said that it would be exceedingly difficult for him to win in 2010 as a Republican, and that's why he was switching to the Democratic party.<br />
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Again, it's a bad idea to vote for anyone because they have an (R) or a (D) by their name. You have to vote based on their policies and their voting record. (And personally, I vote for people partly how humble they are. Humility is way underrated in this country.) All please note:
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All please note:<br />
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anagram of: SENATOR SPECTER ===>>> RATES NO RESPECT<br />
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Ain't it the truth!!??
All please note:<br />
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anagram of: SENATOR SPECTER ===>>> RATES NO RESPECT<br />
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Ain't it the truth!!?? I recall advice my mother gav…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:82012009-04-29T14:10:02.891ZPhyllishttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Phyllis
I recall advice my mother gave me: "If he will cheat WITH you, he will cheat ON you." So I hope Specter wins the Democratic primary. I'd rather take a chance on him winning the seat as a Democrat and being as disloyal as he has proven himself to be instead of running against a true Democrat.<br />
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As for Toomey, I am concerned that he couldn't defeat Specter when only Republicans were voting. I don't know that he has a chance against him, or possibly any other Democrat, in a general election in this…
I recall advice my mother gave me: "If he will cheat WITH you, he will cheat ON you." So I hope Specter wins the Democratic primary. I'd rather take a chance on him winning the seat as a Democrat and being as disloyal as he has proven himself to be instead of running against a true Democrat.<br />
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As for Toomey, I am concerned that he couldn't defeat Specter when only Republicans were voting. I don't know that he has a chance against him, or possibly any other Democrat, in a general election in this state. I suggest we don't put all our chips on his number just yet. Specters jump is simply anoth…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:81622009-04-29T12:11:57.630ZTom Martinhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/TomMartin
Specters jump is simply another political hack staying with the current winners. When the Republicans took control in '94 several dems in the house and senate switched parties.<br />
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I suspect Toomey will suffer the same results that Santorum did for the same reasons. Pushing issues that are personal and legislatively belong on the state level to the federal level, moderates from both parties will be disenfranchised.<br />
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Specter abandoned any hint of fiscal sanity and that is what has really annoyed…
Specters jump is simply another political hack staying with the current winners. When the Republicans took control in '94 several dems in the house and senate switched parties.<br />
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I suspect Toomey will suffer the same results that Santorum did for the same reasons. Pushing issues that are personal and legislatively belong on the state level to the federal level, moderates from both parties will be disenfranchised.<br />
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Specter abandoned any hint of fiscal sanity and that is what has really annoyed the conservative and moderate base.<br />
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As a nation we won't be borrowing our way out of this mess - and Specter has been a cosigner on the massive spending and debt for decades. Not at all. If you voted for…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:81132009-04-29T02:10:27.053ZClinton Judyhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/ClintonJudy
Not at all. If you voted for him in the primary, he didn't steal your vote. You voted for him. You could have voted for someone else, but didn't.<br />
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What you <b>should</b> be angry about is if Arlen intentionally took Republican funds for running in the election, with the intent of switching to Democrat. I don't know if that happened, and I don't know what the law says, but that sounds like fraud to me.
Not at all. If you voted for him in the primary, he didn't steal your vote. You voted for him. You could have voted for someone else, but didn't.<br />
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What you <b>should</b> be angry about is if Arlen intentionally took Republican funds for running in the election, with the intent of switching to Democrat. I don't know if that happened, and I don't know what the law says, but that sounds like fraud to me. I just wonder when a politici…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:81112009-04-29T02:07:15.216ZTalenhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/Talen
I just wonder when a politician will speak the truth. Specter sais the gop moved too far right since Reagan. However, during Reagan times we did move right, since the gop has continued to move left. And the left are now radical extremists. The move to the left unfortunately started as soon as John Adams our second pres. Unfortunately our system has continued to move 3 steps left, and once in a while a 1/2 step back.
I just wonder when a politician will speak the truth. Specter sais the gop moved too far right since Reagan. However, during Reagan times we did move right, since the gop has continued to move left. And the left are now radical extremists. The move to the left unfortunately started as soon as John Adams our second pres. Unfortunately our system has continued to move 3 steps left, and once in a while a 1/2 step back. He is a turncoat...oh wait a…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:81072009-04-29T02:00:03.791ZJames Bryan Coxhttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/JamesBryanCox
He is a turncoat...oh wait a minute I forgot he never was a true Republican anyway.... Just a Democrat in an elephant suit...
He is a turncoat...oh wait a minute I forgot he never was a true Republican anyway.... Just a Democrat in an elephant suit... You are right: The Senate sea…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-29:3029713:Comment:81062009-04-29T01:57:35.138ZPeter Trippetthttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/PeterandKarenTrippett
You are right: The Senate seat Specter will be vying for is his own seat, not Casey's. He will <u>not</u> be running against Casey. Specter still has to go through the Democratic primary. If he has a challenger (which would not be Casey), it might be a good time for lots of Republicans to register as Democrats, so they can vote against Specter! If he is defeated in the Democratic primary, he will be finished!<br />
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The other good part of this (if Specter loses the primary) is that Toomey will most…
You are right: The Senate seat Specter will be vying for is his own seat, not Casey's. He will <u>not</u> be running against Casey. Specter still has to go through the Democratic primary. If he has a challenger (which would not be Casey), it might be a good time for lots of Republicans to register as Democrats, so they can vote against Specter! If he is defeated in the Democratic primary, he will be finished!<br />
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The other good part of this (if Specter loses the primary) is that Toomey will most likely be running against a relatively unknown Democrat, and might have a better chance of winning! Yep, and when they seat Al Fr…tag:wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com,2009-04-28:3029713:Comment:80672009-04-28T21:29:02.724ZWilliam Ameshttp://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/profile/WilliamAmes
Yep, and when they seat Al Franken, it will certainly hit the fan. It looks like Franken <i>will</i> be seated, and so the dems will have their 61.<br />
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Specter certainly knew this would be critical to the filibuster, too. In the words of Mr. Blago, "That's a f*ing valuable thing, you don't just give it away!" Anybody with the guts to investigate might be able to follow the money and find a crime, but personally, I wouldn't risk my life on such a thing.<br />
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2010 will be the final stand for the…
Yep, and when they seat Al Franken, it will certainly hit the fan. It looks like Franken <i>will</i> be seated, and so the dems will have their 61.<br />
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Specter certainly knew this would be critical to the filibuster, too. In the words of Mr. Blago, "That's a f*ing valuable thing, you don't just give it away!" Anybody with the guts to investigate might be able to follow the money and find a crime, but personally, I wouldn't risk my life on such a thing.<br />
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2010 will be the final stand for the Republican party and conservatives alike. If they can't retake the filibuster, at least, it's game over.<br />
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On the other hand, there are a few fairly conservative democrat senators, so the filibuster will be an option on certain issues.