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Hey everyone! I wanted to start a discussion about a local tea party. It seems like many people are interested. If we want to do this we need to act fast. I don't know that we can pull something like that together by April 15 but I'd like to hear what other people think. We would need to choose a public location, obtain a permit, advertise, etc. Has anyone organized something like this before?

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I was also thinking that we could do a door-to-door campaign introducing our group, announcing a tea party complete with the tea bag stapled on each door tag.
We have to be a little careful.....if we don't do a good job of promoting it could come off looking lame, which would defeat the purpose.

I also think it should be done right on the 15th if possible...4pm - 7pm? You'll get the working folks and you'll still get the retired folks. Weekend events are a crap shoot, when the weather's really nice they blow it off....and when the weather's really bad they blow it off.

Food suggestion - Hot Dogs & Apple Pie.
I like the idea of a Tea Party/ income tax protest. The 4th amendment has no exception to Having to bear witness against yourself because the government wants your money -- there is even some reference to no direct taxes in that dusty moldy document.

Permit? Federal permit is the first amendment, state permit is the state constitution articles 1 sections 1,2 and 7.

(does this post put me on the domestic terrorist list?)
According to this Obama spokesman.....ours could be the first Teaparty in the country. (see attached)
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The men who had the original tea party risked imprisonment, if not their very lives.

Today's tea parties seem to be more like feel-good protests. I'd support some real civil disobedience, but I'm not interested in any right-wing incarnation of a hippy's kumbaya.

Anybody remember when the telecommunications building was seized back in the 80s? Now that took some guts...and look how successful it was for the organizers. As I recall, one of the leaders is now a sitting provost at Dear Old State. I disagree with their motivations, but I wholly admire their tactics.

So my question is, would this have any teeth, or would it just be a friendly neighborhood get-together?

By definition, one cannot obtain a permit for a tea party! To do so dishonors Sam Adams and the brave men who dumped that tea into Boston Harbor.

Any local event using the name "tea party" must, in my opinion, carry with it some genuine risk for the participants. Otherwise, what's the point?

Now, it's posts like this that are surely being watched by Big Brother. I just hope I fare better than Winston Smith!
William Ames said:
The men who had the original tea party risked imprisonment, if not their very lives.

Today's tea parties seem to be more like feel-good protests.

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By definition, one cannot obtain a permit for a tea party! To do so dishonors Sam Adams and the brave men who dumped that tea into Boston Harbor.

Any local event using the name "tea party" must, in my opinion, carry with it some genuine risk for the participants. Otherwise, what's the point?
I agree that it seems ridiculous, and an insult to the memory of the Boston Tea Party, to have to apply for a permit to have a "tea party". I feel that is part of the bureaucracy that we are currently railing against!

However, I suspect that the men who participated in the original Tea Party were pretty sure of the direction they were going, and were probably willing to defend one another, should action be taken against any individual.

If a group of 10 or 20 people participate in a Tea Party that violates some laws, they will be placed in jail, and dismissed by the press, and nothing else will happen - probably, no politicians will even take notice. However, if a nation-wide group of tens or hundreds of thousands does so, it would send a message that would be noticed!
Theresa, this might have been tongue-in-cheek, but I think the idea of serving tea is a great idea. It makes the point without risking the embarrassment of trying to stage a "protest" and having only a few people show up. The serving of tea is a way to increase awareness of our organization without presenting a negative image. I am a conservative and as such I prefer to work within the system - we are the people who do the right thing; we get the permits.

Theresa A. Nelson said:
I'm in agreement with William, which is why I asked what type of tea party to have. The nicest of tea parties is to set up a table outside the Post Office and serve tea to all of the people going in to mail their taxes to the government. Most of them OWE taxes, that's why they mail them on April 15th. Serving tea is a way of saying "we're sorry you're being screwed by the government too."

A real tea party is dumping tea where you should not be dumping anything. That's the civil disobedience part. It's extreme but it draws attention and it draws out the media if they know some law breaking is going to occur. Are you willing to dump tea on the Post Office sidewalk? That's harsh because those taxpayers are all of us. Are you willing to dump tea on the Courthouse steps? It'll draw attention but what is the message at that particular location? The big question is: are you willing to be fined and/or arrested for your beliefs?

If you saw Obama on Jay Leno then you know he's not taking the tea party protests seriously. However, our local and state politicians WILL pay attention. Our Commissioners must pay attention to a group that draws attention and the media. They must be willing to hear us and they must be willing to account for their actions.

Our state politicians must listen to their constituents. Kerry, GT, Scott, etc. are all willing souls who do listen. Chances are likely they'll vote against anything that goes against the Constitution (i.e. 90% taxation of AIG bonuses).

The hardest to get to are the State Senators and United States Senators. Jake Corman (R) and John Wozniak (D) hold State Senate seats for Centre County. And of course Arlen Spector (R-she typed doubtfully) and Bob Casey, Jr (D). are the United States Senators for PA.

So how do we get to those levels?

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